Ernest O’Neill you stand exposed! (1)

Here is my reply to a guy who said I should not be talking about Ernest. Really? Is he a effing sacred cow?

I have no idea what you are trying to say Sir M. Martin? What I have written about this hypocrite Ernest O’Neill is TRUE because I know him personally. This guy inexorably suffered from uncontrollable money anxiety. As he is not intellectually bright he took the easy road. Became a minister in the Methodist church. But his first step to diminish his money anxiety was to marry a professional women, a dentist. However, as dentists do not make much (or did not 30 years back) in Ireland he used his Methodist Church credentials to apply for American visa.

Once in America his wife’s earnings more than doubled. that, however, was no enough for O’Neill to overcome his lust for more money and possibly fame. It is then he come up with this contradictory idea of “Business Ministry.” He had many fooled. Because the Methodist church would not stand for Ernest O’Neil’s tomfoolery he started his own church. In the post Vietnam War disillusionment era he found many young idealists in Minneapolis who bought this contradictory “business ministry” concept.

The worst part, however, of this “ministry” that people do not know is the exploitation of other people’s “labor of love.” Ernest O’Neil businesses never paid anyone more than the minimum wage. This was so because he was bound by the law. But the other aspect of it is not known to the world. Most workers were expected to or rather forced to work for more than 40 hours for which they were never paid. It was impossible for many, especially who were married, to live on minimum wage and still maintain family. It was a very abysmal scenario.

So do you think the economic plight of his many workers bothered Ernest O’Neill, this eloquent and magnetic minister of Jesus Christ? Of course not.

Ernest O’Neill has a heart of stone. He has no love. He has no concept of friendship. All he knows is how to live well and care for himself. This bastard may present his “compassionate” face to the world. But here he stands exposed.

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O’Neill’s fake Christian business claims

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Nothing reveals O’Neill’s hypocrisy more than his so-called business “philosophy.” As said in my other post, O’Neill’s only mission in life was (and is) to make himself financially secure. The hypocrisy lies in the egregious distortion of scripture to fit his own selfish ambitions. 

SPEWING NONSENSE – THE O’NEILL WAY

O’Neill continues to spew nonsense. His sermon on FAITH is a good example.  To be fair,  O’Neill is not the only theistic teacher who spits nonsense about “faith.” 

What is glaring about O’Neill’s little sermon on faith is its sheer inanity.  When I recently re-read his sermon on faith after so many years, I remembered what an idiot I must have been to believe in such nonsense.

O’Neill starts rightly (as many theologians do) that thinking people are skeptical about faith. He also rightly points out that faith is believing in something which we know is either untrue or simply cannot be true.

The key question that O’Neill skirts (just as all theologians do) WHY DO WE NEED FAITH?  IS FAITH A LEGITIMATE METHOD OF ACQUIRING KNOWLDEGE?    Right here is where O’Neill brings in the red herring.  O’Neill, like most typical theologians does not tacke this basic question asked above.  O’Neill quickly tells us, “that is not what faith is.” (a legitimate means of acqiring knowldege as opposed to reason).  Then in a very strange twist,  O’Neill jumps from FAITH to TRUST.  Faith has nothing to do with acquiring knowledge.  Faith simply means trust, the kind of trust that a child has for her mother or parent.

There you go world.  Faith has no conflict with knowledge because it simply means trusting with the mental attitude of an infant.  Problem solved, the inane O’Neill way!

FACT:  Mr. O’Neill either pretends that he is dumb or he is an idiot who thinks he can impress worse idiots than him.   Faith is necessary because without this thing called faith theology will be impossible.  Faith comes in only by usurping and supplanting human reason and experience.  Faith comes in by creating doubt (skepticism) that human mind is sufficient.  Faith comes in by creating an illusion that there is a world outside of our senses — this illusory world — the world invisible.

By the way, did anyone notice the contradiction in O’Neill’s website?  First, true to O’Neill’s character, even a “spiritual” site end in dot com.  (Commerce has always been O’Neill’s number one priority.)

Second, how can anyone in his or her right mind say that there is a world out there which cannot be apprehended by human senses (which indeed is invisible) and then turn around and make the stupid claim that “I have seen this world!!!” “And I know such an unseen world exists.”

That is exactly what O’Neill and his slavish enablers are saying to the world.  An utterly nonsensical claim.  None of these people have “experienced” anything of this “invisible” world, because by their own definition it is outside the human realm.  Yet, these deluded people claim that they have “touched” and “apprehended” this “invisible world.”  It does not take a genius to know that this a contradictory, false claim.

This is indeed where faith comes in.  Once the “inadequacy” of the human mind is affirmed, faith is the only way to apprehend this “other invisible world.”  The only problem here is that since none of them (including O’Neill) has experienced the “world invisible” one must “trust” O’Neill and the wonderful experience of “reality” he had years ago.

Which is what all religious leaders, gurus and prophets have demanded.  An attitude of trust and humility from their followers.  Because without such an attitude faith cannot be learned.

If you still cannot see through this guy and the bunch of “yes men” that surround him, then I cannot help you.

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IT IS NEVER TOO LATE FOR TRUTH – BY KUSH K

Kush K is CALLING ALL EX-CAMPUS CHURCH ASSOCIATES OF

THE EXTINCT CAMPUS CHURCH OF MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA

Some of you will ask the obvious: WHY NOW? Why can’t bygones be bygones?

Three big reasons:
1. This shameless man never apologized to the immense wrongs he did to thousands in Minneapolis.
2. He continues to do the same old, same old, reincarnating himself in Raleigh, North Carolina.
3. Justice needs to be done.

It is about time folks! Thirty years plus is a long time. Note, I have Pastor in “quotes” because, first, it is a self-acquired title. Second, the title “Pastor” is associated with qualities which Earnest O’Neill does not posses. Qualities such as love, caring, empathy, and honesty.  It is an insult to humanity to call this man a “Pastor.”  I will be calling him O’Neill.  Remember, one way how the deceivers acquire respectability is to add titles to their names.  Religion gives respectability to scoundrels by such title as “reverend,” “pastor.” “holy” and so forth.

This is a tactic to subconsciously put your mind in a “respectful state.”  This allows religious office holders to obtain undeserved respect.  Additionally, such titles before one’s name protects them from criticism or just plain human scrutiny.  After all who but an arrogant fool will question the “holy father!”

Therefore, this or any other “reverend” does not awe me.   This was not the state of my mind when I was deep into religion.  Thank goodness, I am free.  Which is why I am concerned about truth.  Which is why I have decided to use the blessing of the internet to expose this man.

HUMAN RESPONSIBILITY

I know many of you realized who Earnest O’Neill is.  You have told me so personally.  Which is why you did not follow him to North Carolina when he ran with all the loot.  Nevertheless, many of you have told me that you have left this human tragedy in “God’s good hands.” With all due respect, crimes cannot be left in “God’s good hands.”  Which is why we have a justice system.  O’Neill’s crimes were worse than what ordinary criminals do.  Not addressing them is a crime in itself.  I am guilty of that myself.  Because I have remained silent.  To leave such human affairs of this earth into “God’s hands” is an easy and, to be honest, a lazy way out.  IT ACCOMPLISHES NOTHING.

Judgment or no judgment.  We already know that in real terms O’Neill will never pay for his crimes.  The greatest satisfaction he has is that he smugly reestablished himself.  This is his proof that he did nothing wrong.  “O’Neill, you have hidden yourself behind the garb of religiosity and behind your enablers.  Your days of hiding are over O’Neill.”  Thanks to the Internet.  O’Neill, you can no longer hide.

THE DECEPTION
O’Neill’s deceptions can fill an encyclopedia. O’Neill’s number one tactic is deceiving the young idealists who are looking for a higher purpose and spiritual fulfillment. Using hypocritical dramatic acts and generating a narrative about himself accomplishes that. So may of us fell for that narrative. O’Neill talks of his intense, personal, spiritual experience he had years ago while he was a young man. This “experience” changed his life. The believability is imparted by the fact that when he had this “experience” with God, he was a Methodist minister. This experience revealed to him the hollowness of the organized churches such as the Methodists.

O’Neill decided to leave the organized church but not until he got permanent resident status in USA through the Methodist church. He had no compunction in betraying his sponsors who enabled him to come to America! No one ever questioned that because the young, idealists who are themselves disillusioned with organized churches, cannot see O’Neill’s betrayal to the Methodist church. Clever as he is, O’Neill actually used this to bolster his spirituality claims. The first deception worked.

O’Neill never had to worry about paying his monthly bills. The methodist church sponsorship helped his spouse get a green card. O’Neill made sure that he has an earning spouse. His wife is dentist. Therefore, if anything were to happen financially she was O’Neill’s financial fall back. Having himself put in financially secure circumstance, O’Neill has always been ready to play with other people’s life. From here on, O’Neill would not think about anybody else’s financial circumstances.

O’Neill always had the credit cards for himself, which he could easily obtain because of his spouse’s income. To the rest he would offer the God card. It worked! Here is how.

O’Neill founded the Campus Church in mid seventies. This was the post-Vietnam era. It was a time when many young persons were seeking spiritual comfort and healing. In other words it was the right time for spiritual deceiver. Snagging a few hundred idealist, young men and women, was not at all a problem for O’Neill. Campus Church prospered. So did O’Neill. He bought a lovely home in Wyzata, an expansive suburb of Minneapolis and drove a luxury car. What about the rest? They lived in improvised, sub-standard housing and got by with clunkers!

Be that as it may, this is not about sub-standard housing or clunkers!  This is about making right.

RIGHTING IT FOR O’NEILL BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE FOR HIM

O’Neill never made it right.  He never expressed any regret to anyone that I know.  He never to this day has apologized to the erstwhile elders of Campus Church such as Mark Behlen, Scott Colomb, Leighton Carlson, Bob Richardson (My apologies for misspelling some names — but you know who I mean).

THIS IS WHAT PROVES THAT O’NEILL IS A GUILTY MAN.  This lack of any regret, even a hint of apology.  No sir, a self-righteous man never apologizes.

I am under no delusions, that this man who never expressed any regret, let alone an apology, to his close circle of friends who sacrificed and worked hard for him will ever say anything meaningful to anyone else.

Vile men are known to have pleasant persona.  Once O’Neill knew that he could fool hundreds of young, spiritually inclined American with his pleasant persona he became an exploiter.  Ask any one who has been in a “leadership” position.  They will tell you upfront how easy it is to manipulate those who are willing to listen.

Especially when the listeners are waiting to hear the “word of God.”  Deceivers know how to tap into this vulnerability.  O’Neill, from day one, know how to exploit this vulnerability.

Which is why I have come to expose this man.  Some will say let bygones be bygones.  Others, still mired in in mind numbing religion would say, “Let God take care of this man on the day of judgement.”

To them I say NO.  Bygones are bygones where there is regret, where there is sorrow expresses, where there is sincere apology.

O’NEILL HAS NO SUCH REGRET, NO SORROW NO APOLOGY TO THOUSANDS HE HARMED IN MINNEAPOLIS AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THEIR UNSPEAKABLE SACRIFICE.

To the religiously inclined there might be justice in the other world.  For me that is a blank check that no one has ever cashed.

My objective is two fold.  1.  To let O’Neill know that he has not been able to fool all forever

2. To expose this man and ask him to fess up and apologize.

THIS IS NOT FOR ME.  IT IS FOR O’NEILL.  THOSE WHO HAVE SYMPATHY STILL FOR O’NEILL SHOULD CARE FOR HIS SOUL.  HOW CAN YOU SAY THAT THIS MAN IS OK IN THE EYES OF GOD WHEN HE DID SO MUCH HARM TO CHRIST’S FAMILY AND CHRIST’S CHURCH IN MINNEAPOLIS?  DO YOU NOT WANT THIS MAN TO BE MADE RIGHT BEFORE HE SEES THAT DAY FROM WHICH THERE WILL BE NO RETURN??

Come on Christians!  Do you not care for the soul of O’Neill?   Would you let him face the judgement thinking that he is OK just because he swears by Jesus Christ?  Is that enough?

As far as I know for Jesus Christ the biggest sin was hypocrisy.  This man needs to be saved from his hypocrisy.  His group of followers and enablers who did not demand accounting from him are the ones who are making sure that O’Neill goes to hell deluded that he is the favorite of Jesus Christ.

But how can O’Neill be right with Jesus Christ?  If he was would he had abandoned Christ’s children in Minneapolis and not shed a tear?  Can you not see the contradiction here?

Even if none of you replies to me.  Even if I do not get a single reaction.  It is not going to stop me from exposing this vile man and his wrongs for which he has never expressed regret and has never sincerely apologized.

UPDATED: JULY 6, 2007

[June 12, 2008: This is my first post on this subject.  I will be posting more soon. If this shows up in your search, then please by all means leave me a comment.  I will love to hear from “ex-Campus Churchers,” who like me, were deceived by Earnest O’Neill and his enablers.  Yes, in due time, I will also be exposing O’Neill’s enablers. This pathetic bunch of “believers” have stuck with him in North Carolina and London.  These enablers are equally responsible for the crimes of this man.]